There was a lot of strange towns. There was one town up in the Highlands, because we went out to Bobonaro, Maliana, Suai, and went up into Ainaro and then back over into Dili eventually. There was a big town... I'm sorry, I can't remember the name, but when the Indonesians were withdrawing, the mayor of the town had paid the Indonesian troops not to burn, so this town had all its rooves. Every other town they'd steal the tin. They'd rip the tin off the roofs and set fire over and go and they'd take locals with them.