I started off to be a surveyor. I liked the work but in those days there was no formal course for a surveyor but you still had to pass these formal examinations out of a book and that didn't suit me so after the best part of two years I thought 'Okay I'm just going to wander off' and I went to Queensland did a couple of odd jobs there for about a year or so and then I saw this ad, join the navy, sorry, join the army and go to Korea and I thought 'Oh well, why not?' So, I went into the recruiting office in Brisbane and said, 'I want to join' and I don't remember much about it.
The agent said 'Fill in here. How old are you?' I knew I was supposed to tell, sorry, have my parents' permission if I was under twenty-one in those days, would you believe? And they were in Sydney and I was up there, and I didn't want to do that, so I just added two years to my age, and nobody wanted a birth certificate. I was in.